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Very extremely confined engine bay lengthwise. yeah, had actually already figured that out ... it was a tongue in cheek post, that I didn't make clear ... my negative In reply to spitfirebill: I included that point due to the fact that when I needed to locate a substitute 4.9 for my F150, I had to go via each in every junkyard in South Jacket to locate one that wasn't sludged up actually terribly.
Bernie: Which is a far better van, while we're going to speak concerning a few issues of these vans, yet I I'm plainly not going to come out and state one is better than the various other. Bernie: Well, they're essentially the very same car.
They appear to be a bit more used because location, however, you understand, those are several of the uses, but they're basically the same classification of vehicle. Mark: So, well, allow's start with engines then. What issues do you see in between these two automobiles? Bernie: Yeah. So let's discuss engine and actually simply to specify that the model years, we're mosting likely to begin with 2000 and up, you understand, I suggest, these vans have been around for a very long time.
And, you recognize, for a variation of a Chevy van has actually been around given that, you recognize, around that time as well. Since 2000, I indicate, Ford's, you can get these with V6 engines or V8s.
There's a whole lot of issues with these engines. In the earlier 2000 stimulate plugs with impact to these engines, because they didn't have enough threading in the trigger plug, which caused problems.
If you're buying anything from possibly 08 and more recent, you're not going to have that kind of stimulate plug problems. Various other areas though, with the Fords that we see, consumption manifolds will leak, they'll create coolant leaks. It's a plastic manifold generally you need to change the entire thing.
And there's some concerns, the Ford engine I have to claim in their favour, since I'm speaking about issues, it's an extra sophisticated engine. Expenses cam, so you're obtaining more power and efficiency out of the engine than you would on a Chevy, which is a less complex style with press poles.
They're just really respectable, resilient, strong engines. You understand, being a van, of course, you know, doing any solution on them is a lot more complicated since you have actually reached eliminate that cover and get involved in servicing in odd methods. But things like ignition system last a dreadful very long time, so they don't require to be replaced really usually.
Mark: Can you get these vans with diesel engines? Bernie: You can and we do service a few of them. I can not believe of if we've ever before done a Chevy, but Chevy, they're readily available from 2006 to 16 with a Duramax diesel. The Fords have had diesels in them for a very long time, like way back before the 2000 version year.
You recognize, that's still available. If you're a say, I don't recognize, I'm just going to say a plumbing and you have actually obtained like a great deal of heavyweight inside your van and you're towing a trailer behind it, that would certainly be an actually excellent use of having a diesel powered van.
In all justness, it seems like the diesels are, they seem to have much less troubles in vans than they carry out in the trucks. Probably because they aren't worked so hard, but when points occur, they're truly expensive to fix. We've got a great deal of video clips and info concerning diesels, specifically the Fords.
You actually require to assume two times regarding obtaining a diesel in a van. That's my referral. Mark: Yeah, so suitable for function, make certain that you're suitable the engine that you're purchasing for the function that you're endeavouring to meet. Bernie: Yeah, exactly. And I will state, Chevy is practically limited to V8 engines, yet Ford has a V 10 engine also, which is an impressive gas wolfing engine.
If you're, and again, we're simply talking about kind of a directly, routine freight van here. Look at your function, your usage, exactly how much weight you're carrying and that'll aid you make the decision.
One point that we haven't spoken regarding here is what type of van. These vans are, and it relies on what design, they're available ever from half bunch to one bunch chassis and really some of the cutaway vans are in fact a lot more sturdy, like, you understand, 450s and 550s for say the Fords.
Bernie: You understand, I'm going to offer the edge to Ford on this one. And the reason for Ford is that it's a little simpler.
There's less guiding link associated with a Chevy. There are less parts to wear out. They do a sphere joints that wear. So do Chevy's, but it seems, and the Chevy's probably last a little longer than the Fords, yet the, you recognize, the steering linkage is much less difficult, so there's less parts and much less things to use out.
The ride in a Ford is probably a little a lot more truck like but I don't understand if you 'd in fact ever actually saw a distinction between both. It looks like their components are a little tougher on the Ford than the Chevy. Mark: What about brakes? Bernie: Brakes are practically the same, however I will claim that it appears like with Fords, the means they build their brake calipers, that they tend to need to be changed almost whenever you do a brake work.
For one reason or another, they appear to last for one brake job. And after that a lot of times we take the brakes off and say, Oh, the dust boots torn, and so the caliper requires to be changed. I assume on a Ford and you can expect to invest a little more money on brakes and you can on a Chevy.
And I can, I'm going to swerve back before the 2000 version years, there were some Chevy vans that had actually bad doors. I suggest, the moving doors were crap, you know, truly badly developed. In fact, I would certainly claim that if you are even considering something older, it feels like Chevy and GMC vans really and their trucks as a whole really took a leap ahead in high quality around the 2000 design year, due to the fact that there was a great deal of stuff where the brakes for example would not last extremely long in any way.
However if we're checking out the 2000 newer, I imply, I 'd say they're both most likely rather much equivalent in quality, fit and finish, you recognize, some of the guest vans, obviously we'll have better visits than the freight vans. I can't claim that one of them stands out to me a little bit more than the other.
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